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14. May 2010 at 16:10
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Thank you for such a brilliant application! Its is perfect for my needs. I do have a request if possible.

When clicking on a callto:// link it pops up the phonelite application each time. Im using this software in conjunction with my website. I was wondering if it was possible to add an option to keep the application down by the system tray instead of popping up and blocking my website? Yet still make the phone call? Is this a possibility for the future? If not would you consider adding in this functionality for £ ?

Thank you very much for this great application though! its very handy!

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Reply #1 - 14. May 2010 at 16:58
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Download the latest beta version of PhonerLite and run it once. After closing PhonerLite you will have a new entry in the file called "PhonerLite.ini". Change the line "AutoRestore=true" into "AutoRestore=false" and save the file.
  
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Reply #2 - 17. May 2010 at 13:09
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OH MY GOD! Fantastic! This is absolutely the best application for SIP I have used to date. This functionality is just the cream  on the cake!

I have noticed I can invoke the phonerlite.exe /callto://01234567 is there a Phonerlite.exe /hangup command available yet? Im just curious...as I can invoke that with activeX. 

I would love to show you my finished project using your application when Im finished. Also please put a DONATE button on your website! Im sure there are many people as grateful as I am that would like to show it.

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There is no hangup option available. You can use the COM interface to do so.
I don't offer a donate button because of all the following stuff like taxes. There is less trouble if I keep everything as it is. But thanks for your comments.
  
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please how i caal sip uri?

i try some sip uri calls, but not have luck! i thing, phoner have any bug?

i use latest beta of phoner lite

try to self:

sip:100@hd-telefonie.avm.de
200@hd-telefonie.avm.de

etc. (allow G722 codec)

i not have luck (i try via phonebook and via direct write into number field) or not work or phoner have bug ?
  
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Reply #5 - 02. Jun 2010 at 14:56
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PhonerLite can call URIs directly.
Do you have configured a SIP server (Proxy/Registrar) in PhonerLite? If so, all requests go directly to this server.
You can enter such server in the "Domain/Realm" field instead. That has the following advantage: If you dial a phone number this domain is attached (@domain) and the message is sent to this domain. But if you enter a full domain, the call is sent to that entered domain.
  
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Reply #6 - 04. Jun 2010 at 09:24
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Dear Admin;  I assume that u r the creator or developer of this software.  Would u b so kind as 2 tel me how to config it?  I have actually followed all the instructions in sipgate.co.uk, and they (sipgate) can't provide technical support
  
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Reply #7 - 04. Jun 2010 at 14:47
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As I told before: Cut the data from the "Registrar/Proxy" field and paste it into "Domain/Realm". The "Registrar/Proxy" field should be empty after this. Save.
After that you can enter a valid URI or just a telephone number.
  
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Phoner Admin wrote on 02. Jun 2010 at 14:56:
PhonerLite can call URIs directly.
Do you have configured a SIP server (Proxy/Registrar) in PhonerLite? If so, all requests go directly to this server.
You can enter such server in the "Domain/Realm" field instead. That has the following advantage: If you dial a phone number this domain is attached (@domain) and the message is sent to this domain. But if you enter a full domain, the call is sent to that entered domain.


Thx. I think, this is bug, if i call:
200@hd-telefonie.avm.de
then call must go directly to hd-telefonie.avm.de
how say RFC?

Second prob. (if i apply your workarround) is - incoming channel not work, only outgoing G722 work - where is bug? Pls try call to 
200@hd-telefonie.avm.de
and tell me thx.
  
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Reply #9 - 05. Jun 2010 at 06:40
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some my tips and questions:

1) Cut and Paste (Shortcut) in Debug Windows not work Sad

2) i send to my provider this

m=audio 5062 RTP/AVP 8 0 2 3 97 110 111 9 112 113 114 101
a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
a=rtpmap:2 G726-32/8000
a=rtpmap:3 GSM/8000
a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000
a=rtpmap:110 speex/8000
a=rtpmap:111 speex/16000
a=rtpmap:9 G722/8000
a=rtpmap:112 G726-16/8000
a=rtpmap:113 G726-24/8000
a=rtpmap:114 G726-40/8000
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-16
a=sendrecv


provider send back this and use iLBC codec 

t=0 0
m=audio 16406 RTP/AVP 97 3 8 101
a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000
a=fmtp:97 mode=30
a=rtpmap:3 GSM/8000
a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-16
a=silenceSupp:off - - - -
a=ptime:20
a=sendrecv

I think, this is not bug, but feature (provider ignore my preference PCMA and set self preference Sad No way... (if i not disable iLBC and GSM codec) - sure?

And how i get G.729a codec? Cheesy is any chance get work sjg932.dll etc.? Smiley

3) how i set permanent record as profile settings - is possible please?

4) <Unauthorized> = after i click to green semaphore - this is unregistered, not incoming call? I think not, then how effect?

5) i report badlink in HELP: The actual implementation is tested against Grandstream GXP2000 

6) G.726 in accordance with RFC 3551 is same as G.726 AAL2?

7) how much numbers is possible registered simultaneously? (Fritz!Box = 20 Sip accounts together Smiley

many Thx.
  
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Reply #10 - 08. Jun 2010 at 11:38
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1) Cut and Paste (Shortcut) in Debug Windows not work Sad

Ctrl-Ins should work

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2) i send to my provider this
m=audio 5062 RTP/AVP 8 0 2 3 97 110 111 9 112 113 114 101
a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
a=rtpmap:2 G726-32/8000
a=rtpmap:3 GSM/8000
a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000
a=rtpmap:110 speex/8000
a=rtpmap:111 speex/16000
a=rtpmap:9 G722/8000
a=rtpmap:112 G726-16/8000
a=rtpmap:113 G726-24/8000
a=rtpmap:114 G726-40/8000
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-16
a=sendrecv


provider send back this and use iLBC codec 

t=0 0
m=audio 16406 RTP/AVP 97 3 8 101
a=rtpmap:97 iLBC/8000
a=fmtp:97 mode=30
a=rtpmap:3 GSM/8000
a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-16
a=silenceSupp:off - - - -
a=ptime:20
a=sendrecv

I think, this is not bug, but feature (provider ignore my preference PCMA and set self preference Sad No way... (if i not disable iLBC and GSM codec) - sure?

Thats the way it is implemented in PhonerLite. Yes.

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And how i get G.729a codec? Cheesy is any chance get work sjg932.dll etc.? Smiley

There is no legal way to use this codec without paying license fees. Sorry.

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3) how i set permanent record as profile settings - is possible please?

There are some legal issues because I don't do that. In some countries recording without telling the other party about it - is not allowed. 

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4) <Unauthorized> = after i click to green semaphore - this is unregistered, not incoming call? I think not, then how effect?

Registration is for telling the server how youre reachable. So if registration fails (or is disabled) no incoming calls are possible.

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5) i report badlink in HELP: The actual implementation is tested against Grandstream GXP2000

What bad link?

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6) G.726 in accordance with RFC 3551 is same as G.726 AAL2?

I think its the other way around. But you can switch. 

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7) how much numbers is possible registered simultaneously? (Fritz!Box = 20 Sip accounts together Smiley

PhonerLite can only do one registration at the same time.
  
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Reply #11 - 26. Mar 2011 at 11:20
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onee wrote on 05. Jun 2010 at 06:13:
Phoner Admin wrote on 02. Jun 2010 at 14:56:
PhonerLite can call URIs directly.
Do you have configured a SIP server (Proxy/Registrar) in PhonerLite? If so, all requests go directly to this server.
You can enter such server in the "Domain/Realm" field instead. That has the following advantage: If you dial a phone number this domain is attached (@domain) and the message is sent to this domain. But if you enter a full domain, the call is sent to that entered domain.


Thx. I think, this is bug, if i call:
200@hd-telefonie.avm.de
then call must go directly to hd-telefonie.avm.de
how say RFC?

Second prob. (if i apply your workarround) is - incoming channel not work, only outgoing G722 work - where is bug? Pls try call to 
200@hd-telefonie.avm.de
and tell me thx.


Dear admin,

please answer
  
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Reply #12 - 26. Mar 2011 at 13:37
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If you configure a "Proxy/Registrar", the initial request always goes to that address. If you leave that field empty and configure a "Domain/Realm" instead - you get what you want.
Example:You have configured the domain "example.com". If you enter just "12345", PhonerLite creates a URL called "12345@example.com" and resolves "example.com" and sends the request to that address.
If you enter "12345@otherurl.com" the configured domain will be ignored.
I hope you understand the way PhonerLite works for this.

If you don't hear the remote party, there are two possibilities:
1) PhonerLite doesn't tell the remote party its own public IP address and port. For this you can configure a STUN server or you are using a router that supports UPnP port forwarding.
2) There is a problem with NAT/Firewall
  
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Reply #13 - 26. Mar 2011 at 19:23
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Thx for reply.

But if i permanently registered in my TSP (for outgoing and incoming calls from PSTN), then how i call direct SIP URI???

Is normall, if i call 1234@mydevice.com:5060, then call goes to mydevice.com:5060 and NOT goes to my TSP!

1&2 - but if i call different number from my laptop, then all works fine. Then please, try to call this testing number (sip uri) :

200@hd-telefonie.avm.de
or
500@hd-telefonie.avm.de

and tell me... (G722 enabled)


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And how i get G.729a codec? Cheesy is any chance get work sjg932.dll etc.? Smiley

There is no legal way to use this codec without paying license fees. Sorry.


---- please make usable these example for personaly testing 
www.voiceage.com/media/G729.zip
not include in distribution, if i download extra from here, thne is legal, i use only for my tests... you not distribute, then is all OK

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3) how i set permanent record as profile settings - is possible please?

There are some legal issues because I don't do that. In some countries recording without telling the other party about it - is not allowed. 

---- but this is issue on user of application, not author of aplication - you.
Know you any callrecorders for Nokia Phones (Symbian S60) and Beep Supression function? This is commercial aplication and not problem for creators... In my country (EU) is 100% legal recording for personal purposes, i consult this with government.

Maybe if you play aqny vaw file, i delete this beeping vaw file and supress beep Smiley
  
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Reply #14 - 28. Mar 2011 at 16:50
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I have no problems in dialing that "200@hd-telefonie.avm.de" while registered at a different provider. "Proxy/Registrar" is empty but "Domain/Realm" is set to the domain of my VoIP provider.
If that doesn't work for you, please send me an email with the debug output of PhonerLite.

If you don't like my policy about G.729 and call recording, just use a different softphone. For me it is just hobby and I implement it in that way I feel it is right. Sorry.
  
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